Yes, it is per section. No real need for a watch.
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Texas452
SNA - Primary Complete
Hi everyone,
I was recently selected for SNA (Pro Rec Y) due mainly to the help of my recruiter and this website. The ASTB-E is a huge part of being a successful applicant. When I took the ASTB-E I scored a 71 8/8/8. If you are going to take the test definitely read the more recent post during 2014 on this feed. You might also want to check out the feed “ASTB-E/APEX 4 Experience -DEC 2013” http://www.airwarriors.com/communit...experience-dec-2013.41357/page-24#post-796123 (I read pretty much every single post in that feed). Besides the materials shown the Apatrick study guide (attached below) these feeds are some of the most valuable study materials you can get. Beyond that the only advice I can offer is the books you can buy are not really helpful and there is no way to prepare for the Performance Based Measures section of the exam. The Performance Based Measures (PBE) is pretty much 100% chance if you good at it or not. Just relax and don’t get flustered. When I was taking the PBE portion I thought I was failing miserable but everything worked out alright. Study hard and best of luck to everyone taking the test. I included most of the items I study below, all of which were obtained from somewhere on this website.
I was recently selected for SNA (Pro Rec Y) due mainly to the help of my recruiter and this website. The ASTB-E is a huge part of being a successful applicant. When I took the ASTB-E I scored a 71 8/8/8. If you are going to take the test definitely read the more recent post during 2014 on this feed. You might also want to check out the feed “ASTB-E/APEX 4 Experience -DEC 2013” http://www.airwarriors.com/communit...experience-dec-2013.41357/page-24#post-796123 (I read pretty much every single post in that feed). Besides the materials shown the Apatrick study guide (attached below) these feeds are some of the most valuable study materials you can get. Beyond that the only advice I can offer is the books you can buy are not really helpful and there is no way to prepare for the Performance Based Measures section of the exam. The Performance Based Measures (PBE) is pretty much 100% chance if you good at it or not. Just relax and don’t get flustered. When I was taking the PBE portion I thought I was failing miserable but everything worked out alright. Study hard and best of luck to everyone taking the test. I included most of the items I study below, all of which were obtained from somewhere on this website.
What are you applying for?
Generally anything below a 5 isn't good.
IT may not be weighed as heavy for pilot but it is still a portion of the aviation part of the ASTB
I just took the test today, thought I should try and answer my own questions posted above. Got a 61 on OAR.
Math was my weakest section in practice, but I completed the section with a lot of time left and was doing really bizarrely complicated problems. They're a huge fan of that average test score problem.
Reading was intensely obtuse, I actually ran out of time on this section even though in practice I used only half the time to complete. I was a little glassy eyed from the math, but not completing on time shocked me. I got a perfect score on Reading Comp on my SAT and ACT tests, but the Reading section definitely adapted to me.
Mechanical was short and simple, had some weird air problems on there, there were a couple I realized were wrongly answered while it was loading the next question. I was sloppy here. Also there were no electrical problems.
Not sure yet if I will retest, if I could do over I would just have studied a little more. Also realized I should've used a tally system to keep count of how many problems were in each section. Seemed about right for what the guidelines say. One thing I would note: the Reading and Math got intensely harder than practice problems out there. I botched mechanical so it was comparable to practice difficulty. There is definitely something funky about the time to take a section vs. in practice...
Math was my weakest section in practice, but I completed the section with a lot of time left and was doing really bizarrely complicated problems. They're a huge fan of that average test score problem.
Reading was intensely obtuse, I actually ran out of time on this section even though in practice I used only half the time to complete. I was a little glassy eyed from the math, but not completing on time shocked me. I got a perfect score on Reading Comp on my SAT and ACT tests, but the Reading section definitely adapted to me.
Mechanical was short and simple, had some weird air problems on there, there were a couple I realized were wrongly answered while it was loading the next question. I was sloppy here. Also there were no electrical problems.
Not sure yet if I will retest, if I could do over I would just have studied a little more. Also realized I should've used a tally system to keep count of how many problems were in each section. Seemed about right for what the guidelines say. One thing I would note: the Reading and Math got intensely harder than practice problems out there. I botched mechanical so it was comparable to practice difficulty. There is definitely something funky about the time to take a section vs. in practice...
Chris18
Member
Congrats on your score! What materials were you using to prepare, specifically for math? Also, what practice tests were you taking? I am in the same boat you were... Failing comfortable with the rest of the sections, but still struggling with math. Also, how did you feel with the aviation/nautical section? I heard those questions can be kind of random.
Thanks!
James Come
New Member
Hey guys, I was wondering if someone could help me out. I have been studying the Barron's Military Flight Aptitude Tests 3rd edition thus far. I came across some study guides on these forums but all of the posts that I retrieved the information from where really out dated. My concern is that these study guides no longer apply and I will waste time that I don't have studying old material. I have the marine gouge and a couple of personal study guides. Is the marine gouge that was so popular a couple of years ago still relevant? Should I still try and focus this into my routine? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for the help.
First, I only did OAR, I'm considering a lot of specialties but none that require full ATSB, so I won't try at all to help you there, other people know better.
Second, I used the Peterson's practice test and the practice astb the recruiter provides (the same as the basic one you see a lot here.) Before all this I did a few hundred SAT math problems, which was totally not relevant to the types of problems but got me a lot sharper on the basics. I started to realize pretty late how unique and not that numerous the OAR math problem varieties are. So focus on OAR materials. The best math resource is this flash card set. No explanations, use Peterson to learn how to do problems, then use this to practice. http://www.proprofs.com/flashcards/tableview.php?title=astb-math-knowledge
Like you said, random, that's how the mechanical section was. You could study 10 minutes or study 4 hours and I feel you'd get the same score on Mechanical. Focus on math and just peruse the mechanical basics. You can't learn all there is in Mechanical I think. However if you're taking the full battery then maybe you should as there is a lot of overlap between flight sections and the mechanical.
I also used a flashcard for each problem type I would encounter on math and looked through them regularly. If you look at a problem and can't solve it, it goes on a flashcard. I'd like to repeat once more, the test gets a lot harder than the practice problems... If you know the basic frame for a problem though you can handle the complications.
mizzouzk
Fly big stuff
I got picked up with a 54 7/7/7 but that was the OCT board, which had a very high selection rate. I am not so optimistic about the boards following.
Chris18
Member
Thank you!! I haven't seen this particular set of flash cards, and it's been great extra practice for me. After working through all of these problems, did you feel comfortable with what the test was asking? I know they problems get harder as you go along, but were most of the basics covered with these flash cards?
Did you have any method that helped you prepare for the reading comprehension section? From what I've read on this website is that it's tough to study for that section, you just have to read slowly and try not to get bogged down with the info.
Thanks so much for your insight
Well there lots of problem types in the practice that weren't on my test form, but if I told you not to study those you might have those on your test form. What I can tell you is to focus on these two that were sort of new for me.
[Avg Test Score]
Testtaker gets 70 on 1st test, 80 on 2nd test, 2/3 of 4/5 of his 2nd test for his 3rd test. If the professor gives 5 points extra credit on his 4th test and his average score is 80, what was his score on the 4th test? This is a simplified version of one I did, but with the same elements.
[Dividing Negative Powers]
(4^(-1/4) - 16^(-3/9)) / 2^(-2/10)
Those are just made up numbers so I doubt it solves to a pretty simple fraction, but you get the idea. Other than that don't worry too much about the complications, just understand the how of each problem's solving method.
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The reading part was tough. I think how you do better on this is improving your concentration, so practice timed SAT reading problems, or whatever you got. Learn how to read under stress. It's almost all military themed so I'm sure it favors prior enlisted. My idea of how to do it is to read the text first, because all the answers sound reasonable. Then eliminate the answers. The logic behind the testmaker I found was you are looking not just for what is logically correct, but what is logically correct and directly correlated to the text and is sort of a worthwhile discovery. The answer is kind of the broad purpose of the text, what you should learn from it or would benefit from knowing. You are prioritizing based on logic and relevancy. Also each answer is going to be long, and some have charged biases in it. Coming from the culture of the military would benefit you on this section.
Oh and don't be surprised if people start roaming around in your testing room, I read about it here so I wasn't surprised. I'm starting to think it's a key part of the test taking experience. "Administrator must rummage around the test taker a minimum of [2] times per applicant test."
