commercial pilot shortage coming?

[phrogdriver]

I am having doubts about that route. A couple of friends have gone the EMS route, and although the travel bennies are lacking, the lifestyle and starting pay is good (though the seniority pay is less).

Lemme get this straight. A P-3 guy with beaucoup multi time has to start at the regionals?

 

[Harrier Dude]

I am having doubts about that route. A couple of friends have gone the EMS route, and although the travel bennies are lacking, the lifestyle and starting pay is good (though the seniority pay is less).

Lemme get this straight. A P-3 guy with beaucoup multi time has to start at the regionals?

No, he doesn't. There are plenty of other flying jobs that set you up for the airlines that a P-3 dude would be competitive for.

The only military guys that would need to go to the regionals are generally NFO to pilot types and chopper dudes with very limited fixed wing time.

Having said that, if you can survive the first year or three, it isn't the end of the world, either. That assumes that you retired from the military and didn't just get out.

As to EMS, I have some buddies that do it and other commercial choppering and seem to greatly enjoy it. It mainly depends on the company.

 

[webmaster]

Phrog, there is a glut of 6000 hour plus comair pilots trying to get hired. Think there were 2000+ applicants for last years Hawaiian window. That to fill 90 positions roughly. I was and am beneath their competitive mins.

Patience and currency is the name of the game right now. Luckily I have a job flying that pays well and I don't have to put up with the $18 an hour regional jobs.




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[Fallonflyr]

I am having doubts about that route. A couple of friends have gone the EMS route, and although the travel bennies are lacking, the lifestyle and starting pay is good (though the seniority pay is less).

Lemme get this straight. A P-3 guy with beaucoup multi time has to start at the regionals?

Any military guy with more than the min 1500 fixed wing turbine PIC will go straight to the top of the list when "off the street" hiring starts at the majors.

 

[Harrier Dude]

Any military guy with more than the min 1500 fixed wing turbine PIC will go straight to the top of the list when "off the street" hiring starts at the majors.

From your keyboard to God's ears.

 

[PropAddict]

Any military guy with more than the min 1500 fixed wing turbine PIC will go straight to the top of the list when "off the street" hiring starts at the majors.

"I'll have what he's smoking!"

 

[FrankTheTank]

Phrog, there is a glut of 6000 hour plus comair pilots trying to get hired. Think there were 2000+ applicants for last years Hawaiian window. That to fill 90 positions roughly. I was and am beneath their competitive mins.

Patience and currency is the name of the game right now. Luckily I have a job flying that pays well and I don't have to put up with the $18 an hour regional jobs.




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Spot on...

 

[HuggyU2]

Plus having to most likely commute. .

No reason you "have to" commute.
Like with any job, you can always move to where you work.

 

[Recovering LSO]

That $5k signing bonus email I got from AE really makes up for that low pay. Not.


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Out of curiosity, what was your total PIC time leaving the Navy?

 

[Recovering LSO]

"I'll have what he's smoking!"

He's listed himself as a UAL captain... He might not be as crazy as you guys give him "credit" for...

 

[Harrier Dude]

He's listed himself as a UAL captain... He might not be as crazy as you guys give him "credit" for...

What he said is the same as all my airline contacts. I think the process is just a whole lot different than when they came up. I hope he's right.

 

[MasterBates]

True, but I've had friends in the know give estimates all over the place.

All I know is that with 100 Multi Pic, I'm not on the top of the stack.

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[Recovering LSO]

All I know is that with 100 Multi Pic, I'm not on the top of the stack.

Hell, I've got 2,000 multi engine PIC - pretty sure I wouldn't be at the top of the stack...

 

[MasterBates]

Ya. When I was a 2xFOS I pleaded to not fly as a,2P unless absolutely necessary, because 200 is a lot more than 100.

Request denied. Only pic flights were FCF and CQ. Because insert bs reason here.

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[Harrier Dude]

Hell, I've got 2,000 multi engine PIC - pretty sure I wouldn't be at the top of the stack...

You'll be fine. The problem is there isn't "a stack" anymore. It's all a computer screening. Nobody knows exactly what they're looking for, except the obvious "more is better".

It's really frustrating.