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Fighter gap ignores real world reality??

NightVisionPen

In transition
pilot
Gates has some valid points, but the main issue I see is relative to the last "myth" posted at the bottom. The small gap, which may not effect the needs of today or the near future very much, could be allowed to grow because of the current lack of effect. The snowball starts rolling at that point. Ideally we are prepared to face an enemy that hasn't even presented itself so it is difficult to quantify those needs, but we should always strive for supremacy based on intel.

As pressure mounts to decrease deficit spending, the general public will be more inclined to cut the military than the entitlements they have become used to.
 

Fog

Old RIOs never die: They just can't fast-erect
None
Contributor
You boys better pray fror the biggest perceived "fighter gap" possible. An F-18, etc. delivered is likely one that will never be denied you. The trends in technology, government spending and this administration's priorities do not look good for the future of manned a/c. JMHO.
 

exhelodrvr

Well-Known Member
pilot
The biggest problem with this is the time lag between determining a need for greater numbers and/or improvements and getting the aircraft to the fleet/the Air Force. Our system doesn't react fast enough anymore to be able to wait until 6 months before we really need them.
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
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Need I say more?
 

The Chief

Retired
Contributor
Gates has some valid points .....

I think this was a trial baloon Sec Gates sent up. Some on the left are asking the same kind of questions, but their questions are most likely "Why do we need more than 6 large deck carriers." It is a train coming down the track, I am afraid. However, I do not see huge cuts until the second Obama administration. But that is simply a guess on my part, based on rosy coloured glasses.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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Super Moderator
Contributor
I think this was a trial baloon Sec Gates sent up. Some on the left are asking the same kind of questions, but their questions are most likely "Why do we need more than 6 large deck carriers." It is a train coming down the track, I am afraid. However, I do not see huge cuts until the second Obama administration. But that is simply a guess on my part, based on rosy coloured glasses.

Representatives and Senators from both parties love the military more than anyone else it seems sometimes, especially when it comes to the procurement side. I just don't see big, drastic cuts coming down the pike anytime soon, especially if the PAK FA keeps flying and a Chinese carrier sets sail.
 

Van

The Shipmate formerly known as AT2.
I'm dumb. Is that an argument to wait for the F-35C or buy Rhinos?

I think his argument is that with Russia is working on that aircraft (along with what other countries are working on) there could be some "validity" to the "gap". I could be way off though...
 

nittany03

Recovering NFO. Herder of Programmers.
pilot
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Got you covered, man.

Everyone knows the robots will save us. And work cheap.
Wake me up when it lands and taxis on the boat at night, in a sleet storm, with a pitching deck. :sleep_125
 

MAKE VAPES

Uncle Pettibone
pilot
So lemme get this straight....

We are gonna "sneak up" in a 200gazillion ton big grey floating prison for aviation over-achievers, allong with CSG escorts and the logistics trail, then launch stealth aircraft (THAT WILL BE A HOOT TO MAINTAIN ON THE SHIP!) into robust IADS network with lilly white asses strapped in?

I read the CBO report on strategies to mitigate the "gap", but a capabilities based approach would vet the "gap" to be something more than a lame attempt to justify butts in ejection seats. If new weapons and jammers are twice as capable, don't we need a little over half the hard points???????? I believe there may be an actual capability gap... THAT needs to be discussed, not a random number of S/F.

Blasphemy I know... ugh.
 
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EODDave

The pastures are greener!
pilot
Super Moderator
If the powers at be keep us at our current op-tempo we will have a bigger gap then what is being reported now. Leave it up to our leaders to ask us to do more with less. And I think the Navy is about to see bigger cuts sooner than most think.
 
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