Sounds solid to me. The reefer may not be such a good thing, but speeding tickets aren't that negative.
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bottlenose
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I was worried about the reefer usage... I did some reading and it seems like it shouldnt be an issue though. My recruiter mentioned I should write something in my application under the remarks section about the circumstances and that I would never do it again. He also said as long as it was outside of a year ago I dont need a waiver, so Im glad about that.
I'm pretty sure the Navy has a no tolerance on illegal skateboarding.
Nah, that's just for SWOs. They are totally against fun, those SWOs. He should be fine, if applying to the 'brown-shoe' side.
This is what my recruiter had me do and I think it played a BIG part in playing down the MJ usage. I would highly recommend writing something heartfelt about how it was wrong and you realize that now and how you'd never do it again. Good advice from your recruiter.
warprincenataku
New Member
Please Advise
I am looking for a career in the US Navy Officers program. I want to know if one can sign up for two years to begin with or is the initial enlistment four years?
I'm looking to get married in the next two years and wanted to see how enlisting as an officer coincides with getting married.
Thank you for your time.
I am looking for a career in the US Navy Officers program. I want to know if one can sign up for two years to begin with or is the initial enlistment four years?
I'm looking to get married in the next two years and wanted to see how enlisting as an officer coincides with getting married.
Thank you for your time.
fbodypilot
New Member
Well, first off you are commissioning as an officer not enlisting. Depending on your community the minimum commitment ranges from 4-8 years.
It's not really a "program". Naval Officers are the middle and upper level leadership of the Navy, though we of course have various specialties (pilot, NFO, SWO, doctor, chaplain, etc) within the greater military structure. My point in making this distinction is that commissioning is not some short term program, but rather a long term obligation of service and leadership. The basic service obligation is 4 years of active duty service, with an additional 4 years of inactive/reserve duty. For those of us in the flight program, we incur an 8 year obligation following our winging date (normally ~ 2 years after commissioning). Just some food for thought. It's more of a "career" than it is another job
mtsupilot09
"We lookin fo you. We gon find you!"
If you want to become an officer, you must have a four year degree in something, preferably something technical. If you want to enlist first then become an officer, you still must complete your degree. A buddy of mine was just winged this past weekend, he'll be flying helicopters. He enlisted, did his four years, and completed the STA-21 program. It's extremely competitive and difficult, but he completed his degree while he was an enlisted sailor. There is a WEALTH of information on this site. Dissect every forum and learn as much as you can. Good luck.
warprincenataku
New Member
Thank you very much. I have 2 Bachelor's degrees (BA Fine Arts, BS Graphic Design) and was looking for a new career path. Something both challenging and rewarding.
I'm trying to balance commitment to my country with getting married and I'm not sure of the proper direction I need to take. Upon marrying I have an opportunity to work with my fiance's family in her business and would like to start a family shortly after.
I'm 27 years old and am not sure of my next career move. I know I cannot stay in my field and I want something I can be proud of.
I'm trying to balance commitment to my country with getting married and I'm not sure of the proper direction I need to take. Upon marrying I have an opportunity to work with my fiance's family in her business and would like to start a family shortly after.
I'm 27 years old and am not sure of my next career move. I know I cannot stay in my field and I want something I can be proud of.
A few questions
Background:
I was pro-no June 08. As soon as I found out, I looked into options to enhance my packet. I have done several things including starting a enrolling in a Masters’ (currently maintaining a 3.6), starting a club in said MS program, joining a community service fraternity, better LORs, etc. Check out my previous posts if curious about my last package.
Questions:
Disclaimer: I have spent an extensive amount of time searching the forums for these answers, but if there is a post relating to any of these question, please point me in the right direction.
Background:
I was pro-no June 08. As soon as I found out, I looked into options to enhance my packet. I have done several things including starting a enrolling in a Masters’ (currently maintaining a 3.6), starting a club in said MS program, joining a community service fraternity, better LORs, etc. Check out my previous posts if curious about my last package.
Questions:
Disclaimer: I have spent an extensive amount of time searching the forums for these answers, but if there is a post relating to any of these question, please point me in the right direction.
1. If applying for the BDCP option and I do not get pro-rec’d, do they consider the packet again without BDCP consideration? (kind of a dumb question but I haven’t seen anything to the contrary – other than common sense)
2. When applying for BDCP for an MS, does the packet need to contain SAT scores? (OR seems to think so, I haven’t had good luck with ORs though) – I took the test over 6 yrs ago. Also, the university does not have them on file per recommendations on this thread (took SAT for NROTC scholarship, university I went to only required ACT).
3. When I applied last year I had the DD0370 filled out from most of my employers through college and one before, my OR seems to think I need to get all of those resubmitted (i.e. refilled out by employers); that just doesn’t seem correct, any insight from multiple times applicants?
4. Other than the obvious benefits of the BDCP, would it be more beneficial to just apply for OCS (not finishing my MS) or applying for BDCP, possibly getting another pro-no (meaning a 3rd try – which I will make my Nth time if I need to)? In other words, are chances better at getting picked up w/o the BDCP option being considered?
2. When applying for BDCP for an MS, does the packet need to contain SAT scores? (OR seems to think so, I haven’t had good luck with ORs though) – I took the test over 6 yrs ago. Also, the university does not have them on file per recommendations on this thread (took SAT for NROTC scholarship, university I went to only required ACT).
3. When I applied last year I had the DD0370 filled out from most of my employers through college and one before, my OR seems to think I need to get all of those resubmitted (i.e. refilled out by employers); that just doesn’t seem correct, any insight from multiple times applicants?
4. Other than the obvious benefits of the BDCP, would it be more beneficial to just apply for OCS (not finishing my MS) or applying for BDCP, possibly getting another pro-no (meaning a 3rd try – which I will make my Nth time if I need to)? In other words, are chances better at getting picked up w/o the BDCP option being considered?
As the product of a Navy family I can tell you that starting a family in the Navy will be tough yet rewarding. You will move around a lot which might not be good if she is looking at taking over the family business. If you have kids, they will have to move to different schools every two to four years which can be difficult yet exciting as they get to meet new friends and experience different cultures if you go overseas. Of course you'll get some what of a choice as to where you go, but in the end, its the needs of the Navy and not necessarily the needs of your family.
Will your future wife be willing to put up with all the crap that a Navy wife has to deal with? Can she function as an individual without you for up to six months? Can you function without her for up to six months? Are you willing to move around the country and possibly the world for your job? Those are the questions that you need to ask yourself.
Good luck!
Translation...you can't find a job...got it.
Try talking to an Officer recruiter in your area. I cannot think of any "program" that lets you in for less than 4 years...in the Navy. In the Army you might have a chance.
Do you not have the opportunity to work with your fiance's family before getting married? Is that one of the preqequisites for the job application? I am not sure you want the added strings attached to your job review of a full accounting of your faults as a husband. Especially if your wife's last name happens to be Scarpa or Gotti...
You can get married and then join the military. I did it, many others here have done it. It's not nearly as hard nor dramatic as "Army Wives" would have you believe.
black2003ss
New Member
Advice on application - with misdemeanor
First of all, I know any trouble with law outside of a traffic ticket is frowned upon. I explained to my officer recruiter that I had a misdemeanor assault and battery charge, get this, for pinching someone. It basically was an employee who worked for me and we were friends and would go to lunch sometimes, she even asked me once if I would date her if she left her boyfriend. The time came though where my district manager wanted me to fire her because she wasnt making her sales quota for a lengthy period of time. She turned on me screaming sexual harassment and pressed assault charges against me to stop me from firing her. I kept my job, the company fired her, but the prosecutors office wouldnt let it go. I even passed a polygraph atesting to the fact I didn't assault her. It was 5yrs ago. I struck a deal to have it adjudication with-held (charges dismissed after completing probation) rather than risk more serious charges as it was my word against hers. My expensive attorney recommended I take the deal because it would be perminently off my record and not affect future employment. He just didnt tell me "except" federal employment. In hind sight, I truly do wish I had fought it even if I lost. However, it has not affected my civilian job searches as I always have checked "no" to conviction questions and it has never turned up in their background checks. My understanding is that this is not overlooked as dismissed (I plan to disclose it on my app and SF86 form). After all of this, my recruiter wanted me to take the ASTB, which I did, and still gather letters of rec which I am in the process of doing.
My stats
GPA - 2.79 (last 3yrs average was over 3.0, showed marked improvement, didnt college seriously at first)
ASTB - 7/7/7 OAR 60
LOR - Can get at least 4, possibly up to 6 if needed.
14 year volunteer with the National Ski Patrol -Basic Patroller
Age: 30 (yeah, I know, time is running out)
My questions are:
Should I even waste my recruiters time any further?
What are the honest chances of selection with something like this?
Would it pass security clearance?
I understand sometimes there are mitigating circumstances like time that has passed, other offenses, etc. Anyone care to share they made it through with a bump in their history?
If this is like a 95% no chance, I'd probably walk away and not waste anyones time. If this is a 50/50, I'm going to go for it.
Thanks for the advice. Becoming a Navy or military officer had been a long time dream of mine. I even went back to college late in life to finish to do it. I just graduated last fall. I honestly dont care what I do in the military (as long as its not cleaning toilets 24/7), I just want to serve as an officer in any branch, whether its Navy, Air Force, or Army. I just hope my chances are not ruined.
First of all, I know any trouble with law outside of a traffic ticket is frowned upon. I explained to my officer recruiter that I had a misdemeanor assault and battery charge, get this, for pinching someone. It basically was an employee who worked for me and we were friends and would go to lunch sometimes, she even asked me once if I would date her if she left her boyfriend. The time came though where my district manager wanted me to fire her because she wasnt making her sales quota for a lengthy period of time. She turned on me screaming sexual harassment and pressed assault charges against me to stop me from firing her. I kept my job, the company fired her, but the prosecutors office wouldnt let it go. I even passed a polygraph atesting to the fact I didn't assault her. It was 5yrs ago. I struck a deal to have it adjudication with-held (charges dismissed after completing probation) rather than risk more serious charges as it was my word against hers. My expensive attorney recommended I take the deal because it would be perminently off my record and not affect future employment. He just didnt tell me "except" federal employment. In hind sight, I truly do wish I had fought it even if I lost. However, it has not affected my civilian job searches as I always have checked "no" to conviction questions and it has never turned up in their background checks. My understanding is that this is not overlooked as dismissed (I plan to disclose it on my app and SF86 form). After all of this, my recruiter wanted me to take the ASTB, which I did, and still gather letters of rec which I am in the process of doing.
My stats
GPA - 2.79 (last 3yrs average was over 3.0, showed marked improvement, didnt college seriously at first)
ASTB - 7/7/7 OAR 60
LOR - Can get at least 4, possibly up to 6 if needed.
14 year volunteer with the National Ski Patrol -Basic Patroller
Age: 30 (yeah, I know, time is running out)
My questions are:
Should I even waste my recruiters time any further?
What are the honest chances of selection with something like this?
Would it pass security clearance?
I understand sometimes there are mitigating circumstances like time that has passed, other offenses, etc. Anyone care to share they made it through with a bump in their history?
If this is like a 95% no chance, I'd probably walk away and not waste anyones time. If this is a 50/50, I'm going to go for it.
Thanks for the advice. Becoming a Navy or military officer had been a long time dream of mine. I even went back to college late in life to finish to do it. I just graduated last fall. I honestly dont care what I do in the military (as long as its not cleaning toilets 24/7), I just want to serve as an officer in any branch, whether its Navy, Air Force, or Army. I just hope my chances are not ruined.