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Old Ironsides and Real Naval Heros...

Mumbles

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LITTLE KNOWN NAVAL HISTORY..........

One of the Great Military Stories. This was when the Navy had
iron men, wooden ships and their priorities straight.

The U.S.S. Constitution (Old Ironsides), as a combat vessel,
carried 48,600 gallons of fresh water for her crew of 475 officers and
men. This was sufficient to last six months of sustained operations at
sea. She carried no evaporators (i.e. fresh water distillers!).

However, let it be noted that according to her ship's log, "July
27, 1798, the U.S.S. Constitution sailed from Boston with a full
complement of 475 officers and men, 48,600 gallons of fresh water, 7,400
cannon shot, 11,600 pounds of black powder and 79,400 gallons of rum."

Her mission: "To destroy and harass English shipping."

Making Jamaica on 6 October, she took on 826 pounds of flour and
68,300 gallons of rum.

Then she headed for the Azores, arriving there 12 November. She
provisioned with 550 pounds of beef and 64,300 gallons of Portuguese
wine.

On 18 November, she set sail for England. In the ensuing days
she defeated five British men-of-war and captured and scuttled 12
English merchant ships, salvaging only the rum aboard each.

By 26 January, her powder and shot were exhausted. Nevertheless,
although unarmed, she made a night raid up the Firth of Clyde in
Scotland. Her landing party captured a whisky distillery and transferred
40,000 gallons of single malt Scotch aboard by dawn. Then she headed
home.

The U.S.S. Constitution arrived in Boston on 20 February, 1799,
with no cannon shot, no food, no powder, no rum, no wine, no whisky, and
38,600 gallons of water.

GO NAVY!!!
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eddie

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As much as I love wooden ships and the age of sail (the ONLY reason to go SWO is "the prize" and "grog"), I quickly ran the numbers, and each crewman would need to consume like 2 gallons of booze a day. If true, AWESOME, but I don't think we were at war with England (France, yes) at that point anyways.

But don't take my word for it. It's Saturday, and I'm untrustworthy at best...
 

Mumbles

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As much as I love wooden ships and the age of sail (the ONLY reason to go SWO is "the prize" and "grog"), I quickly ran the numbers, and each crewman would need to consume like 2 gallons of booze a day. If true, AWESOME, but I don't think we were at war with England (France, yes) at that point anyways.

But don't take my word for it. It's Saturday, and I'm untrustworthy at best...

I thought the same thing Ed.....that would have truly been a heroic consumption of booze....their livers must have been on fire at the end of that cruise. Also...1798 seems to corresponde with the quasi wars with the French, (XYZ affair and such) but I'll have to check. I think the French and the Brits were both impressioning/ shanghai-ing American seaman in to service.
 

OccamsRazor

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Unfortunately

The US wasn't at war with Britain in 1798, and even during the War of 1812, the Constitution never sailed in British home waters. This story sounds like an amalgamation of the exploits of John Paul Jones about Bonhomme Richard (who really did raid Scotland during the Revolutionary War, but didn't take scotch), the real Constitution, which did sink or capture four British men-of-war (Guerriere, Java, Cyane and Levant) in addition to several merchantmen, and the daydreams of a parched sailor. Makes for an amusing story, though, and it's true that sailors did consume pretty copious quantities of liquor (though 2 gallons per day is a little excessive).

That picture of Constitution under topsails with a Perry and a Burke (anyone know which ones?) and the Hornets passing overhead is pretty badass, though.
 

USMCMidd

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They sailed out of Boston, what do you all expect! Attacked the enemy, scuttled their ships, stole ALL their booze...... Which naturally leads to my next question: where'd they find space on-board to keep their women? (haha)
 

usmarinemike

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The US wasn't at war with Britain in 1798, and even during the War of 1812, the Constitution never sailed in British home waters. This story sounds like an amalgamation of the exploits of John Paul Jones about Bonhomme Richard (who really did raid Scotland during the Revolutionary War, but didn't take scotch), the real Constitution, which did sink or capture four British men-of-war (Guerriere, Java, Cyane and Levant) in addition to several merchantmen, and the daydreams of a parched sailor. Makes for an amusing story, though, and it's true that sailors did consume pretty copious quantities of liquor (though 2 gallons per day is a little excessive).

What a downer. Next you're gonna try telling me that those two battalions of Marines formed at Tun Tavern weren't actually formed for years...sheesh...Thanks a lot Buzz Killington. smileys and all, of course.
 

Flash

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You can thank this guy for the lack of grog on US Navy ships :(

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Mumbles

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The US wasn't at war with Britain in 1798, and even during the War of 1812, the Constitution never sailed in British home waters. This story sounds like an amalgamation of the exploits of John Paul Jones about Bonhomme Richard (who really did raid Scotland during the Revolutionary War, but didn't take scotch), the real Constitution, which did sink or capture four British men-of-war (Guerriere, Java, Cyane and Levant) in addition to several merchantmen, and the daydreams of a parched sailor. Makes for an amusing story, though, and it's true that sailors did consume pretty copious quantities of liquor (though 2 gallons per day is a little excessive).

That picture of Constitution under topsails with a Perry and a Burke (anyone know which ones?) and the Hornets passing overhead is pretty badass, though.

HAL, This guy has the personality of a 1630.....
 
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