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Does College Major matter?
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Raptor2216
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Someone's been telling you lies there buddy. I guess you gotta be sucker to pay so much for "college" anyways.
Thanks for clarifying. In the other threads about selection criteria we forgot to mention the special section you check if you went to ERAU. Are you serious? Where you went to school has no bearing on selection, it's based on GPA, major, etc. All the NROTC people select from the same pool....
Though it is incorrect to assume that the selection process favors ERAU, perhaps why Shaky thinks this is simply because there were more people coming out of ERAU who actually wanted/selected SNA/SNFO than other schools. I know out of my graduating class, there were only two of us who put Pilot as our top choice.......it was a very nuke and SWO heavy school for the most part with a handful of aviation selectees every period.
Pilot wise:
Ive seen many a good people attrited in flight school from a many different commissioning source, Ive seen incredible pilots who studied underwater basket weaving at East BF Community College, Ive flown with Admiral's sons and daughters who could barelly get the wheels up without a near death experience. Some folks just can't fly well, some folks don't enjoy sucking at something they thought they always dreamed of doing, sucking is not fun. Definetelly take a few lessons to see if taste your lunch a second time airborne.
If you pay for all that flight time at ERAU, you let it be known to your IP's/fellow studs, and fall on your pompy tech school sword (because flying a Seminole is infinetelly slower, simpler and less demanding than any Navy Flight School) enjoy your humble pie (everyone will be laughing). I don't care what any civ pilot says, got my ATP in the Seminole, it ain't hard to fly. I'll go ahead and generalize it to the rest.
ERAU doesn't mean jack shit, neither does the Academy, it doesn't really matter. Any NROTC school or OCS after grad, above a 3.0 in XXXical engineering (a flying major from my experience at Ohio State is not considered technical by Navy), well above a 3.0 in anything Non-technical, good ASBT scores and yer a shoe in.
Nothing is guaranteed though (Needs of the Navy), you may end up eating a shit sandwich on bread you don't like, never say die, give a shit filled grin and ask for lateral transfer. Don't mean to piss on the parade, thread needed a dose of reality.
Ive seen many a good people attrited in flight school from a many different commissioning source, Ive seen incredible pilots who studied underwater basket weaving at East BF Community College, Ive flown with Admiral's sons and daughters who could barelly get the wheels up without a near death experience. Some folks just can't fly well, some folks don't enjoy sucking at something they thought they always dreamed of doing, sucking is not fun. Definetelly take a few lessons to see if taste your lunch a second time airborne.
If you pay for all that flight time at ERAU, you let it be known to your IP's/fellow studs, and fall on your pompy tech school sword (because flying a Seminole is infinetelly slower, simpler and less demanding than any Navy Flight School) enjoy your humble pie (everyone will be laughing). I don't care what any civ pilot says, got my ATP in the Seminole, it ain't hard to fly. I'll go ahead and generalize it to the rest.
ERAU doesn't mean jack shit, neither does the Academy, it doesn't really matter. Any NROTC school or OCS after grad, above a 3.0 in XXXical engineering (a flying major from my experience at Ohio State is not considered technical by Navy), well above a 3.0 in anything Non-technical, good ASBT scores and yer a shoe in.
Nothing is guaranteed though (Needs of the Navy), you may end up eating a shit sandwich on bread you don't like, never say die, give a shit filled grin and ask for lateral transfer. Don't mean to piss on the parade, thread needed a dose of reality.
What is a real college, you ask? Well, how about one where the average professor is actually a decent educator? Granted, there are a few VERY good guys that love what they do honestly care about their students, but in my experience it's not the norm. I had WAY better professors overall at community college. How about a school that treats its student body like the competent young adults that they are (or should be), instead of acting like a goddamn high school administration? How about a school that is more concerned with the education of its students than how much money it can wring out of them?
I DID sign on the line, just as you. Hey, free is free; I'm not going to give up a free education. But that doesn't mean I can't voice my dissatisfaction with the quality of that education.
Oh, and how about one where the girl to guy ratio is at least 1:1? :icon_wink
I DID sign on the line, just as you. Hey, free is free; I'm not going to give up a free education. But that doesn't mean I can't voice my dissatisfaction with the quality of that education.
Oh, and how about one where the girl to guy ratio is at least 1:1? :icon_wink
Pretty much sums it up.
Well everyone seems to have ripped apart my previous statement. I wasn't trying to be arrogant about my university. Middies at other schools do get turned down for aviation from time to time, but so far, everyone who's wanted aviation at our unit has gotten it, assuming they were phyisically qualified. Hopefully we won't see any changes in that trend this December...
I am not paying anything for "college" - your tax dollars are.
I am not paying anything for "college" - your tax dollars are.
BlackBearHockey
go blue...
Same here. We were 2/2 last year. Does that mean UMaine has a special check-in-the-box too????
Here's where you're way off dude. In three years, I've never ever heard of someone not getting a pilot slot at my unit or any other (again, assuming all their medical stuff was squared). Do ROTC kids ever NOT get pilot slots? Sure, but in those cases it's due to their own failings (legal trouble, crappy grades, etc). If you're a shit bag, you won't make the cut- this rule applies at any school, Riddle is no exception.
ERAU doesn't give you any advantage in service selection, get it?
I fully understand what your all saying. What I said was based on my own limited observation, and I apologize if it seemed exaggerated. From what I've been hearing, people usually do pick up aviation (as long as they're not total shit bags). But I hear that people at other universities may select NFO when they wanted Pilot (when qualified for both), where as here that hasn't seemed to happen yet [knocking on wood]. Obviously, I don't have any real numbers or statistics in front of me. I'll agree that ultimately, you should attend the school which you are happiest with, advantage or not, because that is where you're most likely to succeed.
Right there is why you need to stop posting 'authoritative' musings on this subject. Basically what you are telling everyone is that you are talking out your ass, so just quit digging while you can still see sunlight.
Listen, man. I went to ERAU (enginerd, not a pilot). I heard the hype, and drank the koolaid as a freshman.
In hindsight, it's very clear to me that ERAU makes a LOT of money by perpetuating this notion that somehow "ERAU" on your degree makes you better than everyone else in aviation and that "employers know you're the best". Frankly, I know a LOT of unemployed pilot majors now. The ROTC units are no different. They tell their cadets/mids that they'll get picked up for aviation because "It's ERAU and we're the best, blah blah blah". It's complete and utter horsehit.
A dumbass grad with a shitty GPA from ERAU isn't going to get a pilot slot. It's that simple.
Do well with your GPA, get involved in your unit, kick ass on the ASTB, and you'll have nothing to worry about. Don't think that ERAU has the boards putting a check in some figurative box that puts you one step closer to a slot.
I'm an ERAU alumnus, and I'll make it very clear: ERAU DOESN'T INCREASE YOUR CHANCES with anything in aviation, especially military flight slots. A USC engineering grad with a good GPA will pick up a pilot slot 9/10 times over an ERAU flight major with a moderate/OK GPA. THAT simple...
I transfered to ERAU after my freshman year at Boston University. ERAU is a good school, but it is completely focused on aviation. Every class, including math, business and engineering, is aviation-centric. If you are interested in history or even just want to keep your options open I would recommend a larger university that has more to offer.
I would also warn you to consider the fact that no matter what you do, there is no guarantee that you will get a pilot slot, so don't join the NROTC program unless you'd be happy as a SWO. Even as an aviator, your number one priority is the sailors under you so don't pursue the commission unless you're willing to put them first regardless of the community you end up in.
On that note, if being a SWO wouldn't float your boat (excuse the pun) consider the Marine Corps. As a Marine officer you can fly, but if you don't you can also be a combat engineer, an intel officer, a platoon commander, etc.
Regardless of what you decide to do, do it for the right reasons, and don't give up a major you enjoy just to improve your chances of getting a pilot slot, you'll regret it whether or not it works out.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
I would also warn you to consider the fact that no matter what you do, there is no guarantee that you will get a pilot slot, so don't join the NROTC program unless you'd be happy as a SWO. Even as an aviator, your number one priority is the sailors under you so don't pursue the commission unless you're willing to put them first regardless of the community you end up in.
On that note, if being a SWO wouldn't float your boat (excuse the pun) consider the Marine Corps. As a Marine officer you can fly, but if you don't you can also be a combat engineer, an intel officer, a platoon commander, etc.
Regardless of what you decide to do, do it for the right reasons, and don't give up a major you enjoy just to improve your chances of getting a pilot slot, you'll regret it whether or not it works out.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do.