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Supreme Court Allows Military Recruiters on Campus
- Thread starter DanMa1156
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I suppose this should be great news for me, but it was never really an issue. It was only some law schools for the most part; a bunch of young law students get full of themselves and decide this is the most important issue in thier lives; we have no trouble getting JAGs in the first place so who cares. I have never had a problem at any campuses. At Boulder you get some strange looks and some folks ask you negative questions but they are relatively polite at the same time.
All the same, nice to have it on the books.
All the same, nice to have it on the books.
Our campus is big enough that we get the major activists from both ends of the political spectrum. While every recruiter I've talked to has told me he/she does get the information available, I've yet to see it be used extensively. The only exception is the local Marine OSO, who started sending emails out to every eligible person this year. Now, this particular OSO is a nice guy who seems good at his job, and I found it helpful since I was actually trying to contact an OSO at the time. However, there are 11,000 undergrads at my school. According to him, he got about a dozen responses to his mass email. Every single person I know on campus received it. Most of them were annoyed that they had yet another email to sort through and delete in an already clogged mail system.
Keep in mind, I'm all for recruiters on campus. Career fairs, info booths, flyers whatnot are great. I don't even mind the occational phone call or snail mail. But the bulk emailthing, especailly with the mass of OTHER bulk emails that students get targeted with, have a tendancy to provoke more of a hostile response than a friendly one.
Just my $0.02.
Keep in mind, I'm all for recruiters on campus. Career fairs, info booths, flyers whatnot are great. I don't even mind the occational phone call or snail mail. But the bulk emailthing, especailly with the mass of OTHER bulk emails that students get targeted with, have a tendancy to provoke more of a hostile response than a friendly one.
Just my $0.02.
Kent State has had a lot of this crap going on for the last couple years. Every time you set up any kind of booth to do any sort of officer recruiting the trolls come out to protest. Got so bad at the black squirrel festival that I actually had to block for my OSO so they could do there job by dealing/talking with the hippys.... it was not a fun day.
hunter-gatherer
There's a woodpecker on your head Keanu
I personally like this quote...
"Geoffrey Shields, dean of Vermont Law School, said the school since 1999 has given up some federal money and will continue to bar recruiters 'as a symbol of the importance of fair treatment of all people.'"
I want to know how a the school executives consider it their divine right to a decision that is really "fair treatment of all people".
"Geoffrey Shields, dean of Vermont Law School, said the school since 1999 has given up some federal money and will continue to bar recruiters 'as a symbol of the importance of fair treatment of all people.'"
I want to know how a the school executives consider it their divine right to a decision that is really "fair treatment of all people".
I go to a pretty big school as well (about 46,000 students) and there's the occasional protest outside the OSO office and any flyer posted on campus bulletin boards by myself is quickly taken down and trashed by some concerned student...or faculty. It's pretty funny though, that the college Republicans opposition protest outside the OSO a few months ago out numbered the anti-military protesters.
mkoch said:
We can live with annoying some people; it is the way advertising works. It is cheap (almost nothing) and in your case, clearly effective. If I got 11 responses from a bulk e-mail that took me an hour to set up that would be great! The folks that get annoyed are most likely not interested so we aren't targeting them anyway. What we do is controverisal so we are willing to take a lot of flack, if need be, to get the information to the people who would be interested.
I don't get what the problem is with unsolicited e-mail either. I get 5-10 offers for a new pharmeceutical company every day; it takes me 3 seconds to delete them. I wouldn't mind a lot of offers for scholarships coming to me. So, while it is annoying to some people who are to some extent annoyed by the military anyway, we will continue to employ an effective strategy.
hunter-gatherer said:
The Vermont Law School is in a town that's smaller than my left nut. I drove past it all the time on my way back to Norwich after vacations. Some of the people in that state are so liberal they make Canada look like a conservative bastion.
Wow, we'd never have a problem here like that in Grand Forks. In fact, if it weren't for the AFB, there likely wouldn't be much of a town. What's interesting is how each branch of the military is the "only" one that guarantees a flight contract up here. This week it's the Marines, next week it will be Air Force.....
redmariner97
Navy
At ODU this wasn't much of a problem either. Go figure.
Lawman said:
I finished up a PFT at Kent a few weeks ago and went into the student center to see the SSgt. Saw a bunch of those douches but he told me that its usually worse. Nice field house by the way. I ran in that indoor track place by the big stadium.
When I recruited we sometimes had the same problem. But for the most part, people were very respectful in their dissent. I frankly don't mind that. If you don't believe in what we're (the military) is doing, fine with me. I could give a sh!t. It's when the uneducated "activists" get out there and start protesting just because someone told them to. Kind of reminds me of the "cause-heads" from PCU. It sounds like next week they'll be in front of the cafeteria with some dude dressed like a cow protesting the hamburger. My opinion, dissent is fine, as long as it's educated dissent. Otherwise, get out of my way, I have a strike to coordinate.
