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Why it's good to be in Naval Aviation

exhelodrvr

Well-Known Member
pilot
Retired H-3 pilot:
The people - how close you get to your three roommates in that J.O. stateroom on cruise. Making friends with the night shift in the galley just down the passageway from your room, so that you can come in at 3 AM and get fresh, hot cinnamon rolls. (And those Navy cinnamon rolls are the best in the world!!)

Watching the ballet of the flight deck crew from vultures' row.

"Crew rest" while ship's company is at GQ.

As a FNG, one of the times when you couldn't "crew rest" during GQ; standing in the front of the ready room with your gas mask on, trying to give a lecture to the pilots on the hydraulic system. While the CO and XO are in the front row, about five feet away from you. And your roommates are in the back row, standing up with their dicks hanging out, trying to make you laugh.

Plane captains!

Chasing a sub during the day time, with an experienced AW in back.

Sitting in a hover about three miles off the coast of San Diego with a student (as an FRS instructor) when the fog was coming in and you really should have headed back in about an hour ago, but you were trying to "get the X out" for the flight. And suddenly the USS Iowa steams out of the fog about a quarter mile away.
 

Mumbles

Registered User
pilot
Contributor
Retired H-3 pilot:
The people - how close you get to your three roommates in that J.O. stateroom on cruise. Making friends with the night shift in the galley just down the passageway from your room, so that you can come in at 3 AM and get fresh, hot cinnamon rolls. (And those Navy cinnamon rolls are the best in the world!!)

Watching the ballet of the flight deck crew from vultures' row.

"Crew rest" while ship's company is at GQ.

As a FNG, one of the times when you couldn't "crew rest" during GQ; standing in the front of the ready room with your gas mask on, trying to give a lecture to the pilots on the hydraulic system. While the CO and XO are in the front row, about five feet away from you. And your roommates are in the back row, standing up with their dicks hanging out, trying to make you laugh.

Plane captains!

Chasing a sub during the day time, with an experienced AW in back.

Sitting in a hover about three miles off the coast of San Diego with a student (as an FRS instructor) when the fog was coming in and you really should have headed back in about an hour ago, but you were trying to "get the X out" for the flight. And suddenly the USS Iowa steams out of the fog about a quarter mile away.


I bet that woke you up.
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
Retired H-3 pilot:
Chasing a sub during the day time....
Since a lot of you are ASW conversant, I'm taking an informal survey ... as I'm just curious ...

How many of you boys have caught a Rooskie (or any other non-US) sub ON THE SURFACE and "thumped" him ???

I know one former A-4/A-6/B747 driver who has .... :D
 

Mumbles

Registered User
pilot
Contributor
Since a lot of you are ASW conversant, I'm taking an informal survey ... as I'm just curious ...

How many of you boys have caught a Rooskie (or any other non-US) sub ON THE SURFACE and "thumped" him ???

I know one former A-4/A-6/B747 driver who has .... :D


Other than ROK, Japanese, or Aussie boats that were just snorting and not really playing their A game.... the Swedes never played around in their Gotland.
 

exhelodrvr

Well-Known Member
pilot
A4s Forever-
No A-4s in the Air Wing on my cruises, but while we still had A-7s, they found more surfaced Soviet subs then the rest of the airwing put together.
 

exhelodrvr

Well-Known Member
pilot
New to the squadron, having to fly with the CO or XO. You knew that you were going to get "grilled", so you were always nervous. Until you figured out that if YOU asked THEM systems/tactics questions you could keep them on topics you were stronger on. And when I found out that my CO was a big Green Bay Packers fan, and loved "Hill Street Blues", ... , those flights suddenly became much easier!
 

exhelodrvr

Well-Known Member
pilot
How totally pumped up with adrenaline you are when you pick up a "man overboard"! Probably the best feeling I have ever had. The incredible amount of respect you have for the rescue swimmers who do the hard work in those situations.

And a shout out to the Coast Guard helo crews, who I think do the toughest flying of any of the services.
 

exhelodrvr

Well-Known Member
pilot
Is there any place else in the world where you find a group of people like the "ready room" in a USN/USMC squadron? Where else do you get the same collection/concoction of smart, rude, funny, sarcastic, crude, patriotic jackasses, any one of whom you would give your life for? Well, almost any one of whom. I can think of a couple ...
 

JESSE131

New Member
The Bad Old Days

Preview The Bad Old Days
I reported to USS Independence as a nugget A-7 driver in late Oct 1973 during the Yom Kippur War crisis. Wanted to be an LSO, so the CO sent me out to the platform one night to observe landings. Within minutes an F-4 showed up on the ball slightly high. He made a humongous correction and seemed to literally fall out of the sky - and dropped his left wing. Now pointed directly at us, the controlling LSO started yelling for power and then hit the waveoff lights. With the F-4 still coming down and at us, the CAG LSO yelled "Hit the net!!", which also went out over the air since he was convulsively squeezing the handset (whaddaya think was going through the RIO's mind?). The five of us observers jumped into the net. I jumped up and immediately started running inboard at full speed. Don't know where I thought I was going since there was no escape hatch. It was pitch black and I hit a platform supporting stancheon with the right half of my face. I bounced back into the net, got up and started running inboard again with the same result. Still conscious, but on my back, I saw the F-4 go just over the LSO platform with burners blazing. The CAG LSO and controlling LSO were crouched on the platform screaming "burner, burner!." They both got singed pretty good from the F-4's burners - looked like they had been out in the sun too long. The right half of my face turned black and blue, and for the next few weeks I looked like a harlequin clown. The F-4 came around and trapped with a fair pass. I asked the CAG LSO later what the pilot said in the debrief, and he replied "Nothing I wanted to hear." I became an LSO anyway.
 

HeyJoe

Fly Navy! ...or USMC
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Super Moderator
Contributor
The Reserve Mafia just passed this around its circuit:

A great Change Of Command dinner speech by CDR "Beef" Wellington, former VFA-203 Blue Dolphins CO.

"Two days ago I closed out my career as a Naval Aviator. The realization is just now starting to hit me as I'm sure it will the rest of you some day.What follows are my remarks at my farewell dinner. Several of the guys in my squadron had asked me for a copy of what I had written and because it had been jotted down on the back of a cocktail napkin in my weird hand writing and because these things came from my heart, I debated for a while whether or not to do write it down, but the response from all the guys and their wives was so humbling and overwhelming, I thought......why not. Being an F-18 pilot and an airline pilot at the same time gives you an interesting and different perspective. Unlike others, at my airline (NWA),they do not have a history of hiring Single Seat Naval Aviators and as such we are definitely in the minority. On every trip when you first sit downnext to a guy, the first volley of questions in getting to know each other always includes "What is your background?" Based on 3 years in the airline industry, I have recently decided to flat out lie and stop telling guys that I am a Naval Aviator and an F-18 pilot. You might be asking yourself, why would anyone do that? There are 3 reasons:

One.....Because everything that the un-informed population knows about Naval Aviation they got from the movie Top Gun. A credible and reliable source of information if there ever was one.

Two.....Because when I tell guys that I am an F-18 pilot, the machismo and bravado that immediately comes from the left side of the cockpit becomes somewhat intolerable and I am forced to sit and listen to stories for the next 4 days that go something like......"Mike, did I tell you about the time when I landed my C-5 on a 15,000 foot runway with only 30,000 pounds of fuel in the tanks, with the weather at mins...... and oh, oh yeah, did I say it was at night." You gotta be shittin' me!!!

Three.....Because, in their state of curiosity, invariably questions get asked about what flying the F-18 is like and what this business of Naval Aviation is all about. It is in my futile attempts to answer these questions that I have finally decided that it is impossible to do so. How can anyone possibly explain Naval Aviation?

How do you explain what it has been like to have seen the entire world through the canopy of an F-18 like a living IMAX film?

How do you explain what is like to fly an engineering marvel that responds to your every whim of airborne imagination?

How do you explain the satisfaction that comes from seeing a target under the diamond disappear at the flick of your thumb?..... on time.

How do you explain cat shots......especially the night ones? How do explain the exhilaration of the day trap?

How do you possibly explain finding yourself at 3/4 miles, at night, weather down, deck moving, hyperventilating into your mask, knowing that it willtake everything you have to get aboard without killing yourself?

How do you explain moons so bright and nights so dark that they defy logic?

How do you explain sunrises and sunsets so glorious that you knew in your heart that God had created that exact moment in time just for you?

How do you explain the fellowship of the ready room where no slack is given and none is taken?

How do you explain the dedication of our young troops who we burden with the responsibilities of our lives and then pay them peanuts to do so?

How do you explain the type of women who are crazy enough to marry into Naval Aviation, who endure long working hours and long periods of separation and who are painfully and quietly forced to accept the realization that they are second to the job?

The simple fact is that you can't explain it. None of it. It is something that only a very select few of us will ever know. We are bonded for life by our proprietary knowledge and it excludes all others from our fraternity. As I will, no matter where you go or what do, you should cherish that knowledge for the rest of your life. For when I am 90 years old sitting on my porch in my rocking chair and someone asks me what I have done with my life, I will damn sure not tell them I was an airline pilot, but rather I will reach into my pocket, pull out my Blue Dolphin money clip and tell them I was a Naval Aviator, I worked with the finest people on the planet, and that I was the Commanding Officer of the Blue Dolphins!
 

RobLyman

- hawk Pilot
pilot
None
Back on my first underway period I was on a hoist transfer mission. We were to pickup someone off a Knox class frigate (yeah, I am that old). I was in the right seat, we were hovering with the nose off to the left. My aircrewman was giving the standard calls, when I heard this: "...Pax half way up,....bwahh ha ha ha ha ha...OMG look at this! Bwaa ha ha ha ha!! Mr L, look in the mirror!"I look in the external mirror so I can see back at the hoist station and I see a somewhat large, round sailor holding tight to the horse collar,wearing tighty whities and his dungarees down around his ankles. I had to fight back the tears of laughter as the AW1 in the back took several "swings" to get the guy in the door.
 
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